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Taking Soy and Clomid together

Catherine McDiarmid-Watt | Saturday, December 26, 2015 | 0 comments

Image: Hands on pregnant belly. Stock Photo credit: nanekiFound on the Soulcysters message board:

My doctor has me taking 200 mg of soy cycle day 1-5 and then 150mg of Clomid cycle day 5-9.

I am taking the soy in the morning and the Clomid in the evening, so that on cycle day 5 I will take 200 mg of soy in the morning and 150mg of Clomid in the evening. I am to start OPK's [ovulation prediction kit] on cycle day 12 at 10am.

When I get a positive, I will go in for an ultrasound to check my lining and my follies, and then I will do an IUI [intra-uterine insemination] at 12 PM the following day, take another OPK [ovulation prediction kit] that day before the IUI, and if it is positive still, then I will get one more IUI done the 24 hours after the first one.

My doctor actually explained it well by saying that the photoestrogens in the soy will be estrogenic and cause my lining to thicken to counteract the Clomid's thinning, it will also give my eggs an estrogenic boost to ripening, so that I will ovulate sooner.

He also said that if we weren't doing an IUI cycle, the soy would be helpful in making a lot of good quality EWCM [egg white cervical mucus].

My doctor did do a small study with 200 women on 100 mg of Clomid - 100 with soy and 100 without. All of the women had to have proven ovulation with Clomid.
Here were his results:

In the women taking Clomid without/with soy:

• average uterine lining thickness : 7.5mm/11.3mm
• average number of mature (20mm or larger) follicles: 2.5/3.5
• average number of released follicles: 2/3
• percent of women that ovulated (verified by ultrasound and progesterone blood testing): 87%/93%
• average day of ovulation: 18/15
• average level of serum progesterone 10 days after ovulation: 9.3/12.2
• percent of ovulating women becoming pregnant with IUI over a course of three cycles (blood hcg levels greater than 5): 43.6%/68.7%
• percent of women that became pregnant that went on to give birth: 52.3%/89.7%

CONTRAINDICATIONS and PRECAUTIONS

Soy isoflavones are contraindicated in those who are hypersensitive to any component of a soy isoflavone-containing product.

Pregnant women and nursing mothers should avoid the use of soy isoflavone supplements pending long-term safety studies. Men with prostate cancer should discuss the advisability of the use of soy isoflavones with their physicians before deciding to use them.

Women with estrogen receptor-positive tumors should exercise caution in the use of soy isoflavones and should only use them if they are recommended and monitored by a physician.

Soy isoflavone intake has been associated with hypothyroidism in some.

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